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Post by Legendbournageddon on Sept 24, 2008 2:53:01 GMT -7
Or maybe that he slowly began to piece together shattered memories and Ilana and Teddy were merely names that he carved into the cage in order for him not to forget his notes at the time. Also, repressed memories have a way of forcing their way back and brief flashes of things appear whenever he touched something familiar.
This wouldn't explain why he didn't recognise Teddy from contact with his son... I.e. Handshake, etc.
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Post by kaylathehedgehog on Sept 24, 2008 9:18:17 GMT -7
Very possible. I just can't see the Illiops, who were known for their kindness and compassion, creating an object capable of completely wiping someone's memory. It could be argued that they weren't aware of what would happen if the crystal broke, but you would think that since they created it, they would be aware of any possible consequences if it did break.
On a similar note, what side effects would the other crystals have if they broke?
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Post by theonemouse on Sept 24, 2008 9:49:41 GMT -7
Probably the opposite effect they have a whole stones.
The last stone, the 7th, was known as the stone of Knowledge (unless I'm way off base here). Opposite of knowledge is the absence of. Restores memory as a whole stone, takes them away when broken.
Here's an extra plot bunny I noticed when looking at the play map. To the West of the Hard-To-Find-City is a region of mountain said to be inhabited by the Bird People. Who are they?
LOL - Ben, wouldn't it be the worst if it turned out my ideas for Crystal Wing mirror who these Bird People are supposed to be? I would just die laughing.
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Post by kaylathehedgehog on Sept 24, 2008 12:31:06 GMT -7
Have you been reading my mind without my knowledge? I had the exact same thoughts the other day.
You know, it would be really cool if the lot of us collaborated to create an unofficial second season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2008 19:45:07 GMT -7
Perhaps he still had the memory of them in his subconsciousness. It's possible that he saw or heard them in a dream but didn't understand the significance of them. It could be that the seventh crystal only affects the waking portion of the mind, but not the portion dealing with dreams and unconsciousness. It would explain why Burl claimed that he saw bits and pieces of his past in his dreams. That actually makes a lot of sense. I feel better about that now. I had forgotten that Burl mentioned seeing parts of his past in his dreams. Thanks for clearing that up! Like I said, I've always been fascinated with the Gutangs (I LOVE their armor...) I like the fact that we never actually saw a full Gutang out of uniform (aside from the jester in King Nogburt's Castle). There's so much mystery in them it makes them so exciting to explore. I wish I could take a trip to the Hard-to-Find City!
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Post by theonemouse on Sept 25, 2008 5:24:12 GMT -7
Kayla - this is actually an idea I've toyed with for, like, forever. It was something subconscious, maybe I registered seeing "Bird People" releated to AdvRux and I have been going with it ever since.
Simply put, I love the idea of a new race adding more depth to the whole story. There is a back story to it all that no one has really touch on.
Where did the Stones really come from? Who are there Bird People? Where did the Gutangs come from? What happened to the other Illiops who headed North instead of South like those now in Rillonia?
So... many... plot... bunnies... (reaches for stew pot)
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Post by kaylathehedgehog on Sept 25, 2008 10:52:16 GMT -7
So many plot bunnies, so little time to catch the evil little buggers.
Considering the stones, I'm convinced that the Illiops had to have been skilled in magic, or that the area in and around the Hard-to-Find City had magical properties that they utilized.
If it were the former, the Illiops themselves could have created the crystals from ordinary rock crystal and infused them with their respective abilities. If it were the latter, the crystals already possessed their respective powers, and the Illiops simply carved the crystals and learned to utilize them. Of course, it's totally possible that both scenarios are true.
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Post by theonemouse on Sept 25, 2008 13:03:54 GMT -7
If the stones already existed and they were carved into their current shape, that leaves us to believe that there are shards out there that do the same thing. If so, where are those shards?
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Post by kaylathehedgehog on Sept 25, 2008 18:57:06 GMT -7
Maybe there's a cave somewhere near the Hard-to-Find City (HFC here on out for simplicity), similar to the cave at the mouth of Rainbow Falls.
If there is such a cave, and the Gutangs ever found it...arg! Away with thee, evil plot bunny!
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Post by theonemouse on Sept 26, 2008 5:53:49 GMT -7
Here, have my shot gun, but I don't think plot bunnies are scared of it anymore.
Hmm, a cave near the HFC... I kinda like that idea. Maybe it's filled with tons of crystals, but only the seven displayed any kind of real power. They other might affect mood when held, or even strength... Along the lines of the different colored kryptonite. Oooooo ^_^
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Post by kaylathehedgehog on Sept 26, 2008 16:22:13 GMT -7
My muses won't allow me to kill the plot bunnies. They say they're too cute. At least some of the plot bunnies I've gotten from this thread can be plausibly worked into a fic I've had bouncing around in my head.
Crystals seem to be a common theme with the Illiops. Perhaps they're the Grundo equivalent to gemologists. It would make sense, then, that there would be crystal caves near the HFC.
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Post by theonemouse on Sept 29, 2008 5:54:17 GMT -7
Kind of strange that we haven't seen any other crystal formations throughout the entire series. The only crystals we see are the 7 and the salt crystal replicas they made to fool MAVO. Maybe crystals there are as rare as diamonds here.
(*takes aim at another plot bunny, lining it up in my cross-hairs*) My muse sees absolutely wrong with off'ing a few of these fluff balls.
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Post by kaylathehedgehog on Sept 29, 2008 9:29:19 GMT -7
Maybe crystals were only common to the area in and around the HFC.
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Post by theonemouse on Sept 30, 2008 5:49:43 GMT -7
Begs the question as to why only there?
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Post by kaylathehedgehog on Sept 30, 2008 12:53:51 GMT -7
Come to think of it, weren't there crystals in the cave that supplied water to Rainbow Falls? Perhaps crystals are fairly common all throughout Grundo, and it was just that Illiops were the only ones who ever did anything with them.
Just because there aren't any formations doesn't necessarily mean that crystals are rare. Even in our world, crystals are often only revealed when a normal rock breaks, or when they're dug up.
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